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SENSUOUS SADIE: Why did you start your listserv Sisters in
Submission?
Angel: "I felt that there were not enough, if any, forums that a
female submissive could go to discuss what was on their minds, and learn
from each other about things that men might not possibly know the
answers to without fear of reprimand or ridicule."
Sadie: In what ways does your group attend to women's issues
specifically?
Angel: "There are common questions about abuse, families, and women
specific questions. I.e.: PMS, spousal abuse, children in a D/s
relationship, etc."
Sadie: Do you have a particular passion regarding building a BDSM
community that is expressed through SiS, or do you do it for other
reasons?
Angel: "I really haven't considered the building of a community
with the list. I do, however, feel that many of the women have bonded
through our discussions. Many have helped others in definite times of
need. Many have offered encouragement to those in need. Those are the
reasons I have such a passion for the list."
Sadie: What do your members/readers tell you is particularly helpful
about the SiS group?
Angel: "I think the most helpful to them all is that they do not
feel alone. So many of the women come to the list as new submissives.
They never realized that there was this type of information available.
They never imagined they shared so much of the same desires, needs and
wishes with anyone, let alone hundreds of other women. They are glad to
have found a place that they can open up and express themselves as
themselves, instead of hiding their true self from everyone around
them."
Sadie: What are some of the common questions and issues that come up?
Angel: "We discuss so much on the list. Common questions are
everything from personal views on things such as: collars, contracts,
Titles (Master/Dom/sub/slave) to things of more importance such as:
Dangers, safety, our submissiveness in general. How to introduce the
BDSM desires into a marriage... The topic list goes on and on. Anything
that the women on the list wish to know about is offered as a topic for
daily discussion."
Sadie: Why do you not include men?
Angel: "I felt for several reasons that women on the list would
feel much more at ease discussing the personal topics that we often
discuss when it is just women on the list. I also felt that women would
not feel so 'preyed' upon if they knew that those on the list had no
desire to have a relationship with them. So many times you find Male
Dominants offering to be a Mentor and help teach when what they really
want is a full submissive in this woman. I wanted to avoid that. I
wanted them to feel safe in their learning."
Sadie: Do you think of SiS as similar to a women-only college in that
women have more freedom to speak up when men are not around? (i.e. to
impress or intimidate or whatever etc)
Angel: "As stated above, yes... I feel that the women have much
more freedom to speak their minds when they know that their Dominants
aren't sitting reading the email on the other end. I feel that they can
come to their SiSters and discuss whatever is on their minds with the
openness they wish knowing that we are all SiSters and have often shared
the same experiences or concerns."
Sadie: How do you protect yourself legally? How do you ascertain that
members are really women? Do you allow transgendered persons?
Angel: "Each member must fill out a disclaimer when they join the
list. This disclaimer states their ages (must be over 21) and states
their first names. All new members receive a full list of rules that
must be followed for the list to run smoothly. I can't, honestly, say
that I know 100% that the women on the list are really women. I know
many of them personally, and many were referred from their friends. I
have to go on the honor system and believe that the disclaimer that was
filled out was done so in truth. To date, no men have come forward, and
no women on the list have come to me with disbelief. I do allow
transgendered persons. If the law recognizes them as women, so do
I."
Sadie: How does your group break out in terms of
single/married/partnered, hetro/gay/bi domme/sub etc? (in general terms)
Angel: "The list varies a great deal. We have all of the above. Off
the top of my head... I know we have single women, married, and
partnered women. I know that some are straight, some are lesbian, and
some are bisexual. I know that we have both submissives and switches on
the list. The only people that you listed not on the list are Dommes....
however, If a Domme comes to the list and states she wishes to learn
more about her submissive side, she will not be turned away."
Sadie: Can you tell me a little bit about yourself? Your background
in BDSM, and so on.
Angel: "I am a 32 year old female submissive. I live in
Massachusetts. I come from a very abused and misused past. I gained
strength and self love somehow over a very important year of my life.
And, somehow found it in me to remove myself from the situation I was
in... never to return again. About 4 years ago, I learned about BDSM and
D/s in general from role playing GOR. Noooo, I know what you are
thinking... maybe I should say that one day I started to talk to my
character's Master out of our characters. And, in our discussions, he
sent me information.... some web pages that I still, to this day, refer
people to when they wish to learn. It took me hours of reading to
believe that this was what I was... I had a friend of mine with whom I
expressed my interests. He told me that he had the same interests, so we
kind of thought it would be good to learn together. However, I basically
became more of his 'sex buddy.' "
"I discovered the Boston Dungeon (now New England Dungeon) chat
room on AOL and began making friends, going to munches, etc. I learned
that I wanted more than what this friend who I called Master was
offering me. I asked to be released and joined the New England Community
more. I went to munches and continued to make friends. I learned so much
from them. I was very fortunate to fall into a great group of people...
sadly not everyone is. Since then, I have been in a few D/s
relationships... in them I continued to learn different areas of the
lifestyle. I can now, proudly, say that I am a collared slave to the
most wonderful, caring man and Dominant that I have ever met in my life.
I have found this lifestyle to be the one that I wish to live for the
rest of my life.... it allows me to be me in all ways... and I am
cherished and adored for all that I give instead of used and abused for
it."
Sadie: Thank you for talking to me!
Angel: "Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity.... I am
more than honored :o)"
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If you enjoyed this interview, read more SCENEprofiles with BDSM
personalities on Sadie's website at www.sensuoussadie.com
Sensuous Sadie is a BDSM columnist and edits SCENEsubmissions, a free
e-newsletter for the New England area and beyond. She is the founder and
leader (1999 - 2001) of Rose & Thorn, Vermont's first BDSM group.
Comments, compliments and complaints, as well as requests for reprinting
can be addressed to her at SensuousSadie@aol.com or visit her website at
www.sensuoussadie.com. Sadie believes the universe is abundant, and that
sharing information freely is part of this abundance, so she allows
reprints of her writing in most venues.
Copyright 2002.
NOTE: So many members of SiS are so passionate about the group, I
couldn't help but include their comments here.
In the several months that I have been on the SIS list, I have learned
so much. It is the personal stories and experiences, the sharing and
compassion that make this list such a Community, a true SISterhood. The
list is a great place to bounce ideas or thoughts, or ask advice or for
answers. Everyone is treated with respect and as family.
~ Cathy
When I first joined the list I thought I was pretty open minded and knew
quite a bit, but hearing other subs views and opinions has broadened my
outlook on the lifestyle and I have learned way more than I thought I
could have!! It also helps a great deal to express my opinions and get
on a soap box now and then.
~ cdYcdChrissy cdYcd
SiS, to me is a growing group of submissives/slaves, who have a safe and
secure haven within the list, to share freely, (without fear of Dominant
repercussions), thoughts, idea's and experiences or to ask questions on
BDSM-D/s topic's. SiS is a learning tool, for both the experienced and
novice subs and slaves by these sharing of thoughts, and also for those
who choose to participate by only reading what others have shared.
~ Satin
I have found the list to be most informative to me and a place to go to
ask opinions. It is a great source of knowledge for new submissives.
They can ask their questions without having any judgment placed on them.
I have asked questions and have had them answered very truthfully. The
questions can also be asked anonymously, which is also a good thing.
Being a new r/t submissive, the list has helped me in many ways and it
is great to know that their are Sisters out there for me ready to help
and to answer anything I might ask. You can do all the reading in the
world, but when it comes to real life, it is nice to get information and
opinions from those who are experiencing it firsthand or who have
already experienced it firsthand. If it weren't for SiS, I don't know
what I would do. I have been r/t for 5 months now and SiS has been there
for me all the way.
~ Maureen
SIS provides me with a forum where I get support and information. I
learn about myself by listening to and learning from others. I smile,
cry, blush and laugh with all my sisters. There is a lot of spirit,
sharing and creativity on this list, and we are lucky that Angel had the
foresight and energy to start it and keep it going.
~ Lainey
Greetings. For Me, SIS means a Sisterhood, A place where I can get
honest answers to Honest Questions. And Where No one stands in Judgement,
just there to lend a helpful hand and an { Ear } Screen to share with.
~ Puff. AKA Nina.
SIS is the most supportive and nonjudgmental (and sometimes really
funny) list I've ever found...all of the questions that I've always
thought were too foolish to ask (but needed to ask anyway) are readily
answered...with humor and with grace...can't ask for more than that!
~ Stacey
SiS is a great learning tool for the new submissive as well as the
senior submissive. I am very grateful to my dear friend who introduced
me to SiS!
~ Babyz
SiS is a comforting and safe place for me. I can learn from other
sisters and also share and there is understanding, and a unity, even
with those that are just screen names. They become personal once you
hear their stories. when you cry when they are having troubles, and you
smile during their joys. I can be myself, and trust in them to not judge
me, but to welcome my ideas and help me along the way, or I help
someone. It is a give and take, and always balances out. And Angel cares
not just about having list names, but about those that are real people
on it.
~ Zoe
I've finally found a list with a comfortable atmosphere, great
discussions and amazing SiSters. I couldn't have asked for anything
better.
~ Cassie
Sis to me is family. .we are all there for each other. a shoulder to cry
on or a helping hand.
~ Emily
I have been a member of SIS since its beginning. I love this group and
very luckily to know most of the personally. Welcome to all who care to
join and keep up the good work Angel.
~ Anonymous
I am only sorry Sis was not out when I came out....it has helped
tremendously....
~ Sopbr
I have been a member of SIS for a couple of months now. It is the best
list I have ever been fortunate enough to be a part of. Soooooooooo very
informative . I can't tell you much it has helped me in my learning
process. Angel is wonderful!
~ Anonymous
let me first begin by getting right to the point, SIS has been the best
thing that has ever happened to me....all my life I have felt a
"hunger" pain and Sis has filled it. The SISters on the list
have been nothing short of responsive and in their heed to direct us,
they have brought me to a point of where I need to be. This is home,
this is family. I love SIS and could not ever be who I am today without
them. The courage they inspire and the thoughtfulness they share is
indeed a SISterly one. I recommend that anyone who wishes to be in the
lifestyle, get on the SIS list and find their corner in life. I was so
new....and still am...but with the strength of my SISters behind me, I
can explore who I may become without inhibition. Please enlist anyone
whom might be feeling the pain in their soul to belong to a group like
this, it is a healing one. What we all need to find our way.
~ Suzanne
Although I don't post much to SiS I read everything . I am new to the
scene and love to hear all the different opinions that people have. It
is also nice to have reaffirmation that others have experienced what I
have or am experiencing for the first time. It is also nice to know that
if I have a question about something and sent it in, it would be
answered by many.
~ Anonymous
I wrote this poem last year and dedicated it to my siblings. I
rededicate it to My SiSters, because S.I.S. is the best e-mail group
that I have ever been involved with. They are nonjudgmental, patient,
friendly, helping, loving & accepting. This world would be a much
nicer place, if there were more people like my SIStas in this world!
~ Mare
A SISTER'S LOVE
In this world, of all the nicest things,
The best is a SISter's Love & all the joy she brings.
A SISter's Love just touches you deep inside,
It is a special bond you simply cannot hide.
A SISter's Love will end your tears of sorrow,
Comfort you & encourage you for a brighter tomorrow!
A SISter's Love will even be there in bad health,
She will do much more for you than you can do for yourself.
A SISter's Love will never be preoccupied,
Because no matter what happens, she'll always be by your side.
A SISter's Love is a gift so sweet and so rare
She will be the only friend who will always be there!
A SISter's Love is like an angel, placed here just for you,
You will always be amazed at the sweet things she will do.
A SISter's Love will be there, even when we disagree
That I think she is my angel on earth. . . But she thinks it is me.
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ABOUT SISTERS IN SUBMISSION
Would you like to learn more about what being a female
submissive is about?
SiS is an open information/discussion list that was
created exclusively for adult, submissive, women in (or
considering being in) the BDSM - D/s lifestyle made up of both new and
seasoned women. SiS is a place to come to learn about and discuss
related topics. The list is made up of your "peers" to offer
support and ideas about any topic you should wish to talk about. A
better description and list rules will be offered upon request. I do
have to ask that you are over the age of 21 to join.
Sisters in Submission (SiS) is a mailing list on
America Online created for female submissives to discuss topics of our
concern.
I have created this web site for new female
submissives to learn about our list and for those on the list to come to
and recap topics we have discussed already. On the list, we also share
graphics, web sites, etc. Basically, anything that we feel those of us
on the list might find some education and enjoyment in.
What do we do? We share
information that is often not found in other forums for female
submissives. A daily topic is sent out in the updates and each woman is
encouraged to share their opinions and/or experiences with the list.
Topics are often generated from our list members from their own
curiosities and problems. Sometimes we share links or graphics that are
related or sometimes we just joke around
What is the benefit of this?
The women find they are not alone in their feelings and needs. It is
also a forum where we can vent and speak our minds openly and honestly
without fear of repercussion.
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Sensuous
Sadie is the author of It's Not About
the Whip: Love, Sex, and Spirituality in the BDSM Scene (http://www.trafford.com/robots/03-0551.html).
She is the founder and leader (1999 - 2001) of
Rose
&
Thorn
,
Vermont
's first BDSM group. Comments,
compliments and complaints, as well as requests for reprinting can be
addressed to her at SensuousSadie@aol.com
or visit her website at www.sensuoussadie.com. Sadie believes the universe is abundant, and that sharing information
freely is part of this abundance, so she allows reprints of her writing in
most venues.
Copyright
2003 Sadie Sez Publications
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